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ruben87
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 13:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

stratego wrote:
hi ruben,

i will not go on with the tourney, please take the win and good luck for the next games.

see you
stratego


What is the problem, Dieter? I do not want to take wins without playing.
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overlord
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 14:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swordfish:
If you don't answer in 10 minutes if we finally play at 14:30 gmt, i will not be on the battlefield. Probably we should play another time today.
Do you want to play at 19:30 gmt?
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 14:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi ruben,

it has nothing to do with you. its a personal decision because i dont agree to
the way, the last decisions were taken. winning is not all...

master.mind did not get the chance, no one cares. others had to take a loss also.

greets
stratego

ps: overlord, please stop insulting other players, no need to call swordfish a clown.
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 14:26    Post subject: Reply with quote

OVERLORD:
You have the nerve to tell me to stop acting like a clown?
You were here, online & we could have communicated a time.
I proposed a time, I was here, and in fact played 7Seas.
YOU are the real clown here!
You chose to IGNORE my proposed time!
You seem to have a problem with tournament times & keeping the
appointments, and abiding by the rules.
You are a crybaby, who cannot take losing... so that you must cry to the
tournament committee that you deserve the right to continue in this tourney
even though it was published that you defaulted to me.
A tournament committee member who does not understand the rules???
RIDICULOUS!
Posting that you beat me 2-0???
When we played only one game?
RIDICULOUS!!
Is that lying ?
Cheating?
Just a simple mistake?
Either way, you acted like an ass afterwards.

I now understand that STRAGEGO has dropped out of this tournament because he does not appreciate the reversal of the Swordfish-Overlord ruling that you defaulted.
I say "hat's off to Mr. Stratego!"
He is willing to stand up & make a point- refusing to play his match vs
Ruben, due to you being a child & a crybaby.
Well, I was here, ready to play you-- waiting in tourney room 401.
You read this, you knew this, and chose to completely ignore this.
So guess what:
I played my match vs Sevenseas.
He Beat me: 2 games to 0.

Sevenseas has earned the right to go on to the semi-finals.
You, Sir, have not.


I am done with this tournament!
I cannot play in a tournament that shows favoritism to committee members
who cry louder than I do.

Swordfish
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 14:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is not going well guys. Please stay calm and remember its just a game of stratego. I think one of the problems is that a tournament organisation (to) consisting of 4 members is too much (hindsight view I know). What is best Imo is that the 2 to members who are not involved in tournament anymore make a new decision about the Swordfish vs Overlord case, thus Flame and Henry. The rest should accept the decision.

@stratego I dont understand you. Why do you bring master.mind up again and what do you mean? I propose to just play our game tonight as planned. As you know I do not agree with all decisions too but let that not prevent us from playing this great game!
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 14:54    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now i understand why you got banned from NASF and stratego.com.
Im not talking anymore with a clown like you.

Dieter did you see why i called him a clown? And its the less i have to say about him, but im not going to drop my level , like he did with his poor level.
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 14:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Josh,

We are playing together now. When can you play?
If you want my availabilities i will inform you ☺

Kind regards,
John.
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major_nelson
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 14:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

swordfish wrote:
OVERLORD:
You have the nerve to tell me to stop acting like a clown?
You were here, online & we could have communicated a time.
I proposed a time, I was here, and in fact played 7Seas.
YOU are the real clown here!
You chose to IGNORE my proposed time!
You seem to have a problem with tournament times & keeping the
appointments, and abiding by the rules.
You are a crybaby, who cannot take losing... so that you must cry to the
tournament committee that you deserve the right to continue in this tourney
even though it was published that you defaulted to me.
A tournament committee member who does not understand the rules???
RIDICULOUS!
Posting that you beat me 2-0???
When we played only one game?
RIDICULOUS!!
Is that lying ?
Cheating?
Just a simple mistake?
Either way, you acted like an ass afterwards.

I now understand that STRAGEGO has dropped out of this tournament because he does not appreciate the reversal of the Swordfish-Overlord ruling that you defaulted.
I say "hat's off to Mr. Stratego!"
He is willing to stand up & make a point- refusing to play his match vs
Ruben, due to you being a child & a crybaby.
Well, I was here, ready to play you-- waiting in tourney room 401.
You read this, you knew this, and chose to completely ignore this.
So guess what:
I played my match vs Sevenseas.
He Beat me: 2 games to 0.

Sevenseas has earned the right to go on to the semi-finals.
You, Sir, have not.


I am done with this tournament!
I cannot play in a tournament that shows favoritism to committee members
who cry louder than I do.

Swordfish

Swordfish,

You are right that you followed the rules and overlord didn't. For this reason, we awaded you 1 point. I can understand your anger, but would you rather qualify to the next round without winning? We just think disqualifying overlord for not turning up at the arranged time is a too strict punishment.
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 15:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major Nelson:
thank you for your reply.
My problem is this:
You decided more than one point awarded to me was "too strict a punishment" AFTER you already decided how the tourney should proceed.
So, in essence, your decision was CHANGED.
This was changed AFTER you gave Overlord the chance to cry about your ruling.
Please consider this:
If it was me, for example, who did not show up, or did not abide by the rules, is there a chance in the world that you guys would allow me back into the tournament? I'll answer that question for you: ZERO.
It would be a default, pure & simple and the tourney would go on.

No: I do not enjoy a win by default.
I came to play, not to advance by default.
But: I played by the rules!!!
I did not make incorrect posts about the results.
I kept the appointed match times.
ETC.

I am an average player at best.
I admittedly, am not that good.
BUT: I do play by the rules, and I do respect opponents and try to be a good sport -- always with a "gl" followed by a "gg."
Somebody has to be a jerk to get me to act otherwise.

I appreciate the time & effort it takes to run a tournament of any kind.
I do not appreciate the shaky ground & unlevel playing field that this tournament has been run on.

Thanks Again,


Swordfish

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fks
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 15:49    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major Nelson and I are playing Wednesday at 19:00-21:00
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ruben87
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 16:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swordfish and Overlord,

I both know you as sportive players. Maybe Overlord can say an excuse to Swordfish for not showing up the first time. Also I hope now you two can make an appointment for a deciding game. Better today than tomorrow.

As I understand it is now 1-1 and you get the change to play the final game (or with a draw another one).
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 17:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm tired of all this fuss.

@fks

You take the win, I'm not interested in continuing playing in the tournament.
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 18:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ffs. Swordfish is banned from all American tournaments please do not let him be the reason for the down fall of the tournament.

Everything is 100% fine according to the so holy rules.

He should have never cried in the first place. It is his poor antics trying to get a win over the #2 player in the world which he has no chance of beating.

Please reconsider Nick as well Dieter. This is bs don't let one cry baby ruin it for the rest of us.
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 19:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

if Nick quits, i will also.
Swordfish is a sick kid that destroyed the tournament.
Big shame.....
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PostPosted: 01.05.2018 19:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a shame.
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