bronstein before any move is made

art · Alter Hase Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 325 Location: USA

If player A sets up board as bronstein, and I join and setup and hit done, and my pieces are ready, but he has not yet setup, or hit done,
may I leave without the game starting, and losing to timer?

Today vs Winner, i hit done, his side was blank, so after 30 minutes, I finally left the room, and did a reconnect. I woke him several times, but he was inactive for 35 minutes. So I hope not to lose this game.

unbiasbob had a situation with Ambiorix where Ambi took forever to setup and bob left and lost to timer.

But I am wondering if this can only happen when both players have hit done, or can it happen if only one player hits done.
I didn;t think player A could hit "done" if the other player had left the table, because you cannot load pieces to your setup when the other player leaves.

However i suppose player A could setup his board, not hit done, then wait with ill intent for the other player to get fed up and leave the table.

I wonder what happened to Ambi, he is a good guy, so not saying anything bad. Just wondering how a player can lose to timer when both players have not yet hit done and no pieces have moved.

stratego · Posted: 10.06.2007 21:28 Post subject:

hello art,

Today vs Winner, i hit done, his side was blank, so after 30 minutes, I finally left the room, and did a reconnect. I woke him several times, but he was inactive for 35 minutes. So I hope not to lose this game.

no - you can check the game results or x-files. the game isnt in the list.
the game didnt start, because you left game before you move or he hit
done.

stratego

stratego · Posted: 11.06.2007 00:38 Post subject:

hello again,

just to make it clear:

if both hit done and one players doesnt move and the timer runs out then THE GAME DOESN`T COUNT !!!

both players must move at least one piece !!! otherwise the game doesnt count.

there is one additional case:
if red starts and hits with scout a first row flag, then the game counts, because the server
knows, that the game was finished with a captured flag.

stratego

art · Alter Hase Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 325 Location: USA

"if both players have hit done and a piece has moved the game starts"
However unbiasbob said that the timer starts on red before any pieces are moved and in battle results the game showed as a loss.
Also he left the room when the other side of the board was not colored.

eindhoven · Posted: 11.06.2007 06:39 Post subject:

maybe next time remove your oponent from game, if it takes to long (after you asked why) or you must go.....

game starts when both players have done their setups....... and before that you can always remove the one who is not ready yet....(i think)

eindhoven · Posted: 11.06.2007 06:41 Post subject:

o ja and reset the game directly

unbiasbob · Alter Hase Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 604

Yes indeed, 2 days ago I joined a timer game with ambiorix. I set up and hit done. I waited 15 minutes but he was still not set up. I removed myself from the game and left the planet. I checked later and saw that I lost by bronstein. can something be done about this game?

stratego · Posted: 11.06.2007 08:30 Post subject:

hello,

i wasnt 100% sure, because i never play with clocks. catching spion at
phone i ask him and he told me same i thought. but we will check this.
its not fair to get a win if the game doesnt start for both.
if you didnt move or left game before he starts, we will remove the win.
but lets check the hole problem. normaly the game doesnt count till both
made at least one move.

stratego

ps. by the way - its not allowed to remove your opponent out of game!

unbiasbob · Alter Hase Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 604

thanks stratego. that game never started and was never played. I am sure that ambiorix will acknowledge this

eindhoven · Posted: 11.06.2007 17:20 Post subject:

i would prefer remove oponent instead a loss.... after leaving the game

think !!!! or make the system works !!!!!

otherwise you can wait for hours..... and thats allowed isn't ....

but you must talk to oponent first about why it takes so long.....
and later you can handle about the actions with adm....

easy like that...........

NO WASTING TIME..............

unbiasbob · Alter Hase Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 604

I dont think removing the opponent is fool proof. If you have to leave, remove him and leave the planet, he may be able to rejoin and you have the same problem

eindhoven · Posted: 12.06.2007 02:32 Post subject:

i meant remove oponent and reset game

if you remove yourself/leaving the game and have a setup on the board......you lose
if oponent put his setup on board and wait untill time is over

there is no other directly solution ...... or you just complain later to admin.
(that's the beloved gravon way .....they like it here)

stratego · Posted: 12.06.2007 02:51 Post subject:

hello,

i tested 2 games with bronstein modus. both show that the opponent wins.

game 1: both players are in game, setup pieces and hit "done"
player red moves - blue not

game 2: both players are in game, setup pieces - then one players leaves game.
the other player gets win after the time out.

both results are wrong and will be corrected, please send an email to me.
we have very few games with a problem here. please wait till we fix this prob.

@ unbiasbob: i send your game to spion - he checks it and delete it

@eindhoven: if you remove a player out of game and the player send this info to us you are in trouble.
we can handle this 1-2 games with an info.

stratego

unbiasbob · Alter Hase Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 604

thank you stratego

eindhoven · Posted: 12.06.2007 03:20 Post subject:

LOL du hast mich schon tot gemacht !!!!

ich werde keine spieler mehr rauswerfen, weil es nicht mehr moglich ist !!!

so warum die warnung..........

du must meine name auch aus dem forum sperren, warst du vergessen......................